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The second day of Internetdagarna (22/10-08) was spent in the Security track as well, except for the last seminar where I switched to the society track.

The first seminar was “PÃ¥litlig e-post / Anti-spam” which translates to “Reliable e-mail / Anti-spam”. The moderator for this seminar was Jörgen Eriksson from .SE.

First speaker out was Amar Andersson from TeliaSonera and he spoke about “Spam-protection that undermine their own goals”. I can honestly say that I did not follow this good enough as I was very tired this first seminar and I kind of regret it now. However, the main problem presented by him was the lack of coordination and standards in anti-spam prevention methods. He mentioned blacklisting in general and the DUL-blacklist in particular, hostname “naming” (reverse lookups which results in a name conatining either “static” or “dynamic”) and how to make sure your e-mails got delivered in this day and age where the requirements for delivery can vary quite much from server to server (correct HELO/EHLO messages, correct reverse lookups, SPF and other DNS related issues).

Next speaker up was Bengt Carlsson from Blekinge Tekniska Högskola that just announced a new project between .SE and BTH. The project name was “säker e-post hantering bland illsinnad programvara” which translates to “Secure e-mail management amongst bad software”.

After this Rickard Bondesson from Linköpings Universitet took the stage to present his research on DKIM, DKIM-milter and DNSSEC implementations. This was a quite long and very informative presentation which stepped through his research in a comprehensive way under the following bullets; Forged e-mail, Prevention of forged e-mail, DKIM, Reliability within DNS, Implementation, Tests, Statistics, Experiences.

After this there was a small moderated panel debate on the topic of Reliable e-mail.

The next seminar was “Parasitekonomin pÃ¥ Internet” which (roughly) translates to “The parasitic economy on the internet”. Stefan Görling from KTH moderated and had one presentation, and the other speakers were two representatives from Lavasoft (you know, the guys behind Ad-Aware) and Martin Boldt (IT-security researcher from BTH).

Görling started out by picking at affiliate systems and the easy of exploiting these services for profit and he worked out from a site that supposedly uses this format in a legit way. He did not go into the malware point-of-view very much but he touched the subject when talking about “mis-spelled domain names default pages” which contain only affiliate links.

The guys (they were two) from Lavasoft then held their presentation which more or less detailed the different types of spyware they had included during the year, and also gave a strange remark saying the TeliaSonera was gaining money from the malware circulating on the internet (as they’re an ISP, they supposedly make profit when having their bandwidth used… hrrm…). This little remark came back to bite them in the ass when a (quite upset) TeliaSonera security employee demanded that they would take that statement back during the Q & A at the end of the session.

Following this Martin Boldt from BTH that discussed reputation systems and automatic EULA analysis. He had researched these areas and they were at this moment involved in creating web browser plugins and applications to enable users to share their thoughts and score on specific applications (binary files). See their project website at www.softwareputation.com for more information. He also noted that this project is still in Alpha stage. The ideas they’re having kind of looks like Panda Security’s Collective Intelligence, except it is user generated not automatic.

When it came to EULA analyzing they’ve taken a harder route than SpywareGuide’s EULA analyzer and they used many different bayesian and similar algorithms in order to define if an EULA is “good” or “bad” with a high level of success. Ideas for the future was to make this automatically integrated into system so that any EULA boxes could be automatically read and scored.

After this there was a Q&A session and Lavasoft’s statements was quite heavily scrutinized both by the TeliaSonera employee and Netnod‘s CEO Kurt-Erik Lindqvist (I think it was him but I only heard the voice, so don’t quote me on this). It seems like Lavasoft’s statement was just illustrating and that they based their assumptions on an US ISP that had misbehaved and in some ways had profited on bad software.

Here I switched room and joined the “Infrastructure and society”-line of seminars. The one I was interested in was “Integritet och övervakning” which translates to “Integrity and surveillance”.

This seminar was moderated by Johan Hallsenius (editor for Computer Sweden) and the debate panel was only populated by pro-Integrity people as none of the invited politicians and FRA-people had turned up even though they were invited. The panel members was Oscar Swartz (debater, writer and blogger), Patrik Fältström (Cisco), Fredrik von Essen (Swedish IT and Telecom Industries) and Daniel Westman (Juridicum, Stockholms University)

The focus of the debate was of course the FRA-law but also dangerous EU-directives and other laws that affect impede personal integrity. It was an interesting debate, but as “the other side” was missing no hard questions could be discussed. I talked briefly to Oscar Swartz before the seminar and he described it as a “non-debate”, as there was only one point of view from all participants (with small diversions). He wrote a post on “Internetdagarna” on his blog in which he breifly mentions this debate.

It was also to hear what Fredrik von Essen from the Swedish IT and Telecom Industries had to say on this issue.

Unfortunately I had to leave before the Q&A session that followed, so I’m looking forward to the sound recording that are to be released here.

Some pictures from this day:

Integrity debate:
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Martin Boldt (from BTH):
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… in the north of Sweden to hold some seminars. As I guessed in a previous post this week has been hard so far and it’s not going to get better. I’ve got a splitting headache that I think comes from not sleeping more than 4 hours a day for the past four days. I’m gonna have to straighten that up by going to bed early tonight.

Tomorrow I’m going to try and write a summary of the second “Internetdagarna ’08″ day, but if there’s no time or energy I’m going to finish it during the weekend.

My Aspire One (8GB SSD/Linux) is still working fine, but my colleagues Windows variant has been in on guarantee service _two times_ since he bought it. What conclusions can you make from that? ;)

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Internetdagarna, the internet days, 2008

Back from the first day of Internetdagarna ’08 (The Internet Days) where I followed the IT-security line of seminars.

So what did I get home with me, apart from the orange swag-bag above, from the different seminars?

The first seminar was “Hotbilden – organiserad brottslighet, cyberterrorism och industrispionage” which translates to something like “The threat landscape – organized crime, cyberterrorism and industrial espionage” and was moderated by security interested journalist Tomas GilsÃ¥ from Techworld. The participants were Tomas Djurling (DSI), Vesa Virta (FRA), Svante Nygren (KBM) and Stefan B Grinneby (SITIC).

First a presentation was held by Tomas Djurling which discussed the different threats against swedish companies and organizations and where those were coming from. Tomas is a former FRA employee and as such the seminar was a bit colored by international military and paramilitary threats. He also said that Islamistic terrorists are getting funding through internet crimes such as CC stealing botnets and so on. No references were given during the presentation and this was new to me (!) so it’ll be interesting to see if this is going to be discussed further in the industry (and if its true). Of course, if FRA is his source we will never know as their business are classified.

After his presentation there was a moderator lead debate in which the audience could submit questions on paper notes. I’m not going to comment on what was said here at this time but there was some interesting things discussed. The sound recording of this debate will be published later and I need to get some facts straight before commenting on what was said here.

The next seminar was “Incidenthantering i praktiken” which in english is “Practical Incident management” and was moderated by Anne-Marie Eklund Löwinder from .SE. Three speakers participated and those were Stefan B Grinneby (SITIC), Annica Bergman (Dataföreningen) and Michael Anderberg (Microsoft).

Stefan from SITIC talked about practical incident management under the theme “Incident management, firefighting or oil sanitation” and it actually worked ;) It was a good introduction to the process of both preparing for incidents and practical hints on what to do in case of an emergency. His presentation was very clear and it made me want to steal parts for my seminars ;) We’ll see about that though ;)

Annica Bergman from Dataföreningen talked about a large scale incident that took place in the beginning of 2008, when the hacker group “Vuxna Förbannade hackare” broke in to their member services using SQL injection attacks and stole their whole member list (26000 members) including e-mail addresses and passwords. These details were later published on Flashback with a huge media storm as a result. She described the 90 days following the incident and discussed what her experience had been like and it was interesting listening to it. I wrote about another intrusion made by this group in this post.

Michael Anderberg from Microsoft talked about SDL (Secure Development Lifecycle) and how it’s applicable not only to software development, but also to incident preparation and management with CodeRed/Nimda as examples. For those interested he also gave a reference to this book as a source of additional information.

Last but not least were “Debattt: Utmaningarna” which translates to “Debate: The challenges” which was a debate about what the internet would look like in the year 2020 policy- and security-wise. The participants were Jan Kallberg (legal expert, also debate moderator), Nicklas Lundblad (Policy Manager, Google Europe) and Kurt-Erik Lindqvist (CEO Netnod).

This seminars started out with all speakers takign turns to present their primary views on how the internet would look like and what implications that might have in the year 2020 (12 years from now).

After this there was a moderator lead debate in which the audience also got to pose questions or statements that the panel commented on. The debate was both entertaining, informative and extremely straightforward. A lot of the discussions were either directly or indirectly relating to the surveillance debate we are seeing all over the world and it was great to see the panel tackle both the philosophic angle and the practical angle of this. This was, for me, the most intellectually stimulating seminar of all. Great perspectives presented by great thinkers.

Tomorrow Internetdagarna ’08 continues and I’ll be back with more information.

Here are a few of the photo’s I took during the day (didn’t take many, focused on listening;) ):

Internetdagarna ’08 posters
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My colleague Rickard Uddenberg (Marketing Manager, Panda Security)
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A Free Software Foundation rep. that also gave me a tip of gNewsense (the really free (as in freedom) Linux distribution)
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The Free Software Foundation poster behind him…
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The World Internet Institute (The Swedish part of World Internet Project) poster.
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…and only leaves me one day in the office (Monday).

First we have;

Internetdagarna

Tuesday and Wednesday I’m attending InternetDagarna (“The Internet Days”) in Stockholm. These will be packed with interesting seminars ranging between DNSSEC, youths on the internet to IT in the politics. It’ll be a very interesting two days and I promise to take a lot of photos. Probably going to do some posts from the event if wireless is available. From their site:

All in all the conference will feature close to 100 national and international speakers in more than 30 sessions, organized in five parallel tracks:

1. IP and networking
2. Security
3. Public Internet policy
4. Web / Mobile web
5. Domain names

The central theme for Internetdagarna 2008 is the transition to IP version 6. We dedicate a full day on the IP and networking track to various aspects of IPv6, from a basic tutorial to experiences from those who have taken the leap.

And then there’s…

Panda

…Thursday, when I’m going up to LuleÃ¥ in the north of Sweden to have a seminar on evolving malware threats and how our solutions tackle these threats. I’ll do a post on this later on.

And on Friday I travel to Umeå (also in the north) to have the same seminar.

I’m going to be tired Friday night ;)

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